A while ago I heard an interesting conversation happening in a group of people that I walked up to. It was a lady voicing her displeasure about the "Christian right" and how they oppose (and thereby prevent) gay marriage and how they shouldn't force their beliefs on others that don't believe the same things they do.
After listening to what she said I replied "I am for the legalization of gay marriage" (which I am) "but that means I'm also for the legalization of polygamy." She did not agree with me.
I asked her to explain why she supported gay marriage.
Her: "No one can tell anyone else who they can love or not love."
Me: "I agree with that. Now if you extend that logic to polygamy and if you are willing to say the government can't tell a man he can't love another man, why can the government tell a man he cannot love two women, or a woman and also a man, or any other combination?"
Her: "Well I guess, but polygamy, that sometimes involves children"
Me: "Well, obviously, it would be bound by normal laws - only consenting adults. Some gay relationships involve children (sexual predators, priests, etc), which is just as horrible. But that isn't an argument against allowing two consulting men to enter into marriage.
Her: "Ok, well I don't know. It's just polygamy is... just taboo. I think it's wrong."
Me: "Ok well that's your opinion. Many cultures around the world think it's right. And you're saying you oppose it because it's taboo and you think it's wrong. That's EXACTLY what you were complaining about the people in this country doing when it comes to gay marriage. You have to see the hypocrisy in that."
Her: "... "
So if you believe that a person can love any other person (consenting adult), you must also support polygamy.
I can only see two counter arguments:
1) Taking issue with it being more than one person - If that logic holds, people should not be allowed to get divorce, or two remarry
2) The counterargument to the above is that it's ok as long as they are not at the same time (consecutive instead of concurrent) If you abide by this logic and these actions (legalization) are enforceable by law, by making gay marriage legal, you must at the same time criminalize cheating in any relationship, since this is what the person is doing (two people concurrently)
For the Record:
I support both of these simply out of my political philosophy, which could be pretty much summed up as "Live and Let Live." I could care less what you do, as long as you don't infringe on my or other's rights. That being said, I believe it is a state issue and the federal government should have no role in it. I believe in State's Rights. I know, I know.. that went out of fashion about 150 years ago.
Am I going to go out and protest/campaign to have gay marriage or polygamy legalized? No.
Why? Because I am neither gay nor a polygamist. And I simply don't care enough about either issue.
But hey if you care about it either way, please put some thought into it. Don't say " I'm against gay marriage because God says it's wrong." Likewise don't say "Well I have a gay friend and he's nice and I think it should be allowed." Newsflash: I like money and so do my firends. That doesn't we should pass a law that gives us free money.
"Ground your argument in thought and logic-no matter what side you're on"
Sunday, April 18, 2010
Wednesday, March 31, 2010
Force Android 2.1 Update
Credit to Fabolous and Getaphixx @ droidforums.net
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-general-discussions/33766-how-force-motorola-droid-2-1-ota-update-ese81.html
Just did it and can verify it works
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-general-discussions/33766-how-force-motorola-droid-2-1-ota-update-ese81.html
Just did it and can verify it works
Friday, March 26, 2010
The War on Drugs - Locking Up America.
Warning: I am KIND OF a fan of a move Obama has made.
The "War on Drugs" was a terrible, terrible idea. Every President since Nixon establsihed it in 1969 has continued and endorsed this war.
Obama is currently shifting Drug polciy toward s a more self-described "harm prevention" policy. An example of this is his plan to introduce "needle exchanges"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/16/drug-policy-obama-needle-exchange
Further, his new appointment of Gil Kerlikowske makes me happy. Here is a quote from the article on his work in Seattle :
"Kerlikowske has built a reputation in Seattle for pursuing drug policies based on harm reduction. The state has an established needle exchange programme, has legalised marijuana for medicinal purposes and has made marijuana among the lowest priorities for law enforcement."
If you don't know anything about the War on Drugs or its effects, I highly recommend Wikipedia. It's actually a pretty solid resource for this issue. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Drugs
Basically the War on Drugs is why we are the most imprisoned country in the world. That's right. The US, the supposed last bastion of freedom, has the highest percentage of its population locked up. Also, it causes great harm overseas. For reference, look up Nicaragua, Columbia and Mexico.
I honestly cannot think of a single good reason that marijuana should not be legalized. If anyone can, please comment.
As for the "harder" drugs, I think that they should still be controlled. however I think the enforcment of these policies and the resulting punishments need to be examined. Over 50% of individuals in US prisons are non-violent drug offenders. Someone explain to me how this helps any of them or society as a whole.
The "War on Drugs" was a terrible, terrible idea. Every President since Nixon establsihed it in 1969 has continued and endorsed this war.
Obama is currently shifting Drug polciy toward s a more self-described "harm prevention" policy. An example of this is his plan to introduce "needle exchanges"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/16/drug-policy-obama-needle-exchange
Further, his new appointment of Gil Kerlikowske makes me happy. Here is a quote from the article on his work in Seattle :
"Kerlikowske has built a reputation in Seattle for pursuing drug policies based on harm reduction. The state has an established needle exchange programme, has legalised marijuana for medicinal purposes and has made marijuana among the lowest priorities for law enforcement."
If you don't know anything about the War on Drugs or its effects, I highly recommend Wikipedia. It's actually a pretty solid resource for this issue. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Drugs
Basically the War on Drugs is why we are the most imprisoned country in the world. That's right. The US, the supposed last bastion of freedom, has the highest percentage of its population locked up. Also, it causes great harm overseas. For reference, look up Nicaragua, Columbia and Mexico.
I honestly cannot think of a single good reason that marijuana should not be legalized. If anyone can, please comment.
As for the "harder" drugs, I think that they should still be controlled. however I think the enforcment of these policies and the resulting punishments need to be examined. Over 50% of individuals in US prisons are non-violent drug offenders. Someone explain to me how this helps any of them or society as a whole.
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